Date: March 2nd 2009

Could we get a copy of the hall insurance to see if it covers our needs ace?

On 3/1/09, Simon Bannister <websafepallet@gmail.com>; wrote:
> I thought of that but I also thought that It would be good to be super
> covered? also, it's at wilunga so who knows :P
>
> On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Justin Miller <jtmiller@jtmiller.net>;
> wrote:
>
>> Waivers are only good to a certain extent, but on the other side the
>> hall
>> we are renting should have some form of public liability insurance which
>> you
>> are covered under when you enter into the contract of hiring the hall
>> from
>> them.
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Simon Bannister
>> <websafepallet@gmail.com>;wrote:
>>
>>> While we're on the subject of legality, I know it's costly but we should
>>> look into insurance, if someone's computer was taken out by a surge or
>>> someone tripped on a cable and broke their leg, we (or the wilanga
>>> organisation if we do that) would be liable for all costs. Maybe get a
>>> proper waiver written up? It's a one time expense and could save a LOT
>>> of
>>> money in the long run
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Simon Bannister <
>>> websafepallet@gmail.com>; wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am all for that idea, completely for it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Justin Miller
>>>> <jtmiller@jtmiller.net>;wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> A meeting can be as small as two people so long as appropriate notes
>>>>> are taken and publicly available, only an annual general meeting would
>>>>> be
>>>>> required aswell.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 8:09 AM, ashton mcallan
>>>>> <acegikmo@gmail.com>;wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> yes it would be the structure a uni club takes. This would usually
>>>>>> mean
>>>>>> mettings needing to be attended but I'll investigate if that can't be
>>>>>> replaced with a web technology.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 2009-03-01 at 13:22 -0800, Brett Eterovic-Soric wrote:
>>>>>> > I think what we all want to know is, will this make more work for
>>>>>> > me
>>>>>> > personally?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Justin Miller wrote:
>>>>>> > > Maybe the kind of structure a uni club takes? they are allowed
>>>>>> > > to
>>>>>> own
>>>>>> > > physical items and have bank accounts,
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 7:06 AM, Brett Eterovic-Soric <
>>>>>> bsoric@gmail.com
>>>>>> > > <mailto:bsoric@gmail.com>;> wrote:
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > I like the idea, but what sort of governing body are we
>>>>>> > > talking
>>>>>> about?
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > ashton mcallan wrote:
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > I think it ought to be legal where it can be. What do
>>>>>> people say to
>>>>>> > > wilanga becoming an incorporated body which can own
>>>>>> > > things(specifically
>>>>>> > > a bank account)? (would require some kind of governing
>>>>>> body)
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > On Sun, 2009-03-01 at 06:31 -0800, Simon Bannister wrote:
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > Because the rest of wilanga is oh so legal :P
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Brett Eterovic-Soric
>>>>>> > > <bsoric@gmail.com <mailto:bsoric@gmail.com>;> wrote:
>>>>>> > > acegikmo: also: $55 for licensing the
>>>>>> > > musicbox for 24 hours
>>>>>> > > acegikmo: and then it's all legal
>>>>>> > > acegikmo: though the mechanical arm of apra
>>>>>> still has
>>>>>> > > to talk
>>>>>> > > to me about the fact that uploading to the box
>>>>>> counts
>>>>>> > > as a
>>>>>> > > reproduction, but saying that we wipe the
>>>>>> contents at
>>>>>> > > the end
>>>>>> > > of the event should make that all good
>>>>>> > > Dion Baker wrote:
>>>>>> > > No word yet Ace?
>>>>>> > > Stueh
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > *From:*
>>>>>> > > Ashton McAllan [mailto:acegikmo@gmail.com
>>>>>> > > <mailto:acegikmo@gmail.com>;]
>>>>>> > > *Sent:* Tuesday, 24 February 2009 7:40
>>>>>> PM
>>>>>> > > *To:* Wilanga Developers List
>>>>>> > > Subscriber
>>>>>> > > *Subject:* [Wilanga Developers List]
>>>>>> Fwd:
>>>>>> > > proposed
>>>>>> > > music management system for event and
>>>>>> legal
>>>>>> > > ramifications.
>>>>>> > > I sent
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> > > message to APRA earlier today. They are
>>>>>> > > the body responsible for music
>>>>>> > > licensing
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> > > australia.
>>>>>> > > Will forward any reply.
>>>>>> > > ---------- Forwarded
>>>>>> message
>>>>>> > > ----------
>>>>>> > > From: *Ashton McAllan*
>>>>>> > > <acegikmo@gmail.com <mailto:acegikmo@gmail.com>;
>>>>>> > > <mailto:acegikmo@gmail.com
>>>>>> > > <mailto:acegikmo@gmail.com>;>>
>>>>>> > > Date: Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 7:38 PM
>>>>>> > > Subject: proposed music management
>>>>>> system for
>>>>>> > > event
>>>>>> > > and legal ramifications.
>>>>>> > > To:
>>>>>> > > licence@apra.com.au
>>>>>> > > <mailto:licence@apra.com.au>; <mailto:
>>>>>> licence@apra.com.au
>>>>>> > > <mailto:licence@apra.com.au>;>
>>>>>> > > Dear
>>>>>> Sirs/Madams,
>>>>>> > > I run a LAN gaming event in South
>>>>>> Australia,
>>>>>> > > and good
>>>>>> > > music is an important part of the
>>>>>> awesome
>>>>>> > > atmosphere.
>>>>>> > > The issue of WHAT music is played has,
>>>>>> > > however, been
>>>>>> > > controversial, as people's tastes
>>>>>> differ. One
>>>>>> > > of our
>>>>>> > > devs has come up with an ingenious
>>>>>> system
>>>>>> > > where the
>>>>>> > > speakers for the event are hooked up
>>>>>> > > to
>>>>>> a web
>>>>>> > > server
>>>>>> > > that acts as a virtual jukebox which
>>>>>> people
>>>>>> > > can access
>>>>>> > > through the computer network at the
>>>>>> event and
>>>>>> > > vote for
>>>>>> > > their favourite songs and, if they
>>>>>> > > don't
>>>>>> see
>>>>>> > > anything
>>>>>> > > they like, upload music from their
>>>>>> computer
>>>>>> > > to the
>>>>>> > > server to be included in the voting
>>>>>> list.
>>>>>> > > While we are
>>>>>> > > in love with this concept as it
>>>>>> effectively
>>>>>> > > solves the
>>>>>> > > problem of people complaining because
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> > > don't like
>>>>>> > > the music, we are concerned about
>>>>>> licensing
>>>>>> > > for this
>>>>>> > > system For the following reasons:
>>>>>> > > A) We have no idea what people will
>>>>>> upload or
>>>>>> > > vote
>>>>>> > > for.
>>>>>> > > B)We have little control over what is
>>>>>> and isn't
>>>>>> > > uploaded/played.
>>>>>> > > It was suggested that we make users
>>>>>> informed and
>>>>>> > > responsible for the music they upload
>>>>>> and related
>>>>>> > > lisencing issues, but I thought it
>>>>>> > > would
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> > > best to
>>>>>> > > contact APRA and seek advice from an
>>>>>> official
>>>>>> > > body.
>>>>>> > > Yours Sincerely, Ashton McAllan
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
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